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Thursday, May 6, 2010

The New Advanced Coach Rating System to Rate Coaches A to F; We Absolutely Guarantee F Coaches will Never Ever win the Quest

Quest for the Ring is upgrading coach reporting. We talk about coaching all the time but up until now our player performance Reports have been much more advanced than our coach performance Reports. Since Quest began, for every hour spent developing coach ratings, about 10 hours have been spent developing player ratings. This gap is being reduced.

Up until now the Real Coach Ratings have been posted just once per year, sometime between October and December. (It was always supposed to be October but y’all know about how schedules are often missed around here because that’s what happens when you have dozens of Reports you try to keep pushing out the door on a limited time budget). From now on, there will be two Real Coach Ratings Reports: one due about July 1 and the other due about October 15. The only difference between the two will be that the July 1 one will be an end of season snapshot while the October 15 one will reflect the off season coaching changes and will set the stage for the new season.

There will now be two Real Coach Ratings Reports: Basic and Advanced. The advanced one has been developed and is now in implementation.

THE BASIC REAL COACH RATING SYSTEM
Note: the following includes new parts of the complete and revised Real Coach Ratings User Guide. The complete User Guide for Real Coach Ratings has been updated and improved and is located here.

The basic Real Coach Rating system gives a set amount of points for playoff wins and a set amount of negative points for playoff losses. Specifically, playoff wins are worth 20 points toward a coach’s rating while playoff losses are negative 28.75 points. But since four points are given for experience for each playoff game coached, the real totals are 24 points for each playoff win and minus 24.75 points for each playoff loss.

For the regular season, 4 points are awarded for each win and minus 5.75 points are assigned for each regular season loss. But since one point is given for experience for each regular season game coached, the real totals are 5 points for each regular season win and minus 4.75 points for each regular season loss.

Coaches who have coached more than 600 regular season games are in effect held to a higher standard, because between 600 and 1,000 games only .25 points per game is given for experience and for games beyond 1,000 no points are given for experience. But the points for regular season wins and losses remain the same, so for long term veteran coaches who have coached more than 1,000 regular season games, 4 points are given for each regular season win and 5.75 points are taken away for each regular season loss.

This system largely offsets the heavy bias in favor of long time coaches and against newer coaches. Because they have been coaching for so long, coaches who have coached more than 600 NBA games and especially ones who have coached more than 1,000 NBA games are much less likely to be fired by owners, all other things equal.

But in fact all other things are not equal, because the majority of long term veteran coaches get to coach teams that are more talented than the NBA average. A good majority of long term veteran coaches are associated with quality team managers and owners who usually make sure the team has enough quality players on it to at least make the playoffs. Making the playoffs when you have high quality managers and a high quality owner is almost automatic regardless of who the coach is.

Micky Mouse could coach the Cleveland Cavaliers and they would most likely make the playoffs, laugh out loud.

All coaches including brand new ones are given 200 experience points. This corrects for what would be a bias against new coaches, who obviously bring previous coaching experience to the table that is not NBA head coaching experience.

Other than wins and losses in the regular season, wins and losses in the playoffs, and experience as just detailed, there are two other components to basic Real Coach Ratings:

--.25 points (1/4 of a point) are given for each game coached by the coach on his current team. The longer a coach stays with one team, the better that coach is on average, simply because he has not been fired, but also because he has more and more team-specific skills and knowledge as time goes by. For example, Jerry Sloan is more effective and valuable as the Coach of the Utah Jazz than he would be if he were suddenly coaching another team.

--30 points are given for each Championship win and 12 points are given for each Championship loss. This gives extra points to coaches who have won four and three straight playoff series, respectively, in one or more seasons. Relative to playoff game wins in general, this is a relatively small but fully justified extra award.

ADVANCED REAL COACH RATINGS
The Advanced system is added on to the basic system. Everything stays the same and carries over from the basic system except for playoff wins and playoff losses. All of the mechanics for the basic system above apply to the advanced system except that that how playoff wins and playoff losses are dealt with by the basic system is null and void in the advanced system. In other words, from basic to advanced everything stays the same except for playoff wins and playoff losses. The advanced system replaces the playoff wins and losses awards and penalties of the basic system with a more sophisticated system.

In the advanced version, every playoff series is looked at as a unit. We start with four measures, the offensive efficiency of the two teams and the defensive efficiency of the two teams (from the regular season, of course). Then we net out the two for each team. Most but not all playoff teams have positive net efficiency numbers.

Then we compare the two net efficiencies and whichever team is higher is the favorite. The difference between the two net efficiencies is very important, because it determines the likelihood or probability of the favored team winning. The greater the difference in net efficiency, the closer to 100% the probability that the better team will win the series. We have a carefully constructed scale to translate differences in net efficiency to how many games the underdog should win on average in a best of seven game (and a best of five) series. For example, if the difference in net efficiency is 5.0, the underdog will on average win 2.3 games in a best of seven series (with the favored team winning 4 games).

Then for each playoff series, we compare the number of games won and lost by the coach versus what the average or standard number of wins and losses are. So then the advanced version breaks down games within playoff series results as follows:

Underdog team wins as expected 16
Underdog team unexpected playoff wins 76
Underdog team expected wins not achieved -84
Underdog team losses as expected -23

Favored team losses as expected -23
Favored team unexpected losses -84
Favored team fewer losses than expected 76
Favored team wins as expected 16

Wins by the favored team get 16 points (instead of 20 that they get in the basic). But unexpected wins, which are extra wins by the underdog team or fewer losses by the favored team get almost five times that many points: 76. Note that if a coach coaches his team to an upset playoff series win, his award would be the difference between the 4 wins it takes to win the series and the number of wins he was “supposed to” get times 76.

Unexpected losses are minus 84 points each and consist of underdog teams winning even fewer games than they were supposed to (and still losing the series) and favored teams losing more games than they were supposed to (but still winning the series). If a favored team loses the whole series then the penalty is the difference between the four wins the underdog team won and the number of wins the underdog team was supposed to win in the series.

Unexpected wins and losses are rewarded and penalized heavily but not excessively. Unexpected playoff losses are one of the worst things that can happen to a team and a franchise, because they waste the owners’ money, because they partly waste the efforts of a lot of players and managers, and because they make the franchise less likely to attract top free agents. Unexpected playoff losses are a nightmare and the fewer of them you have the better.

Note that unexpected playoff losses are in theory supposed to be largely offset by unexpected playoff wins. Most coaches are going to have a series once in awhile where his team performs below standard, but these will be mostly offset by that coaches’unexpected playoff wins.

This is the most crucial thing you have to keep in mind: the main purpose of the advanced system is to on the downside to flush out and penalize coaches who have more unexpected playoff losses than unexpected playoff wins. On the upside, the primary purpose of the advanced system is to flush out and to award coaches who have more unexpected playoff wins than unexpected playoff losses.

In other words, the main purpose of the Advanced Real Coach Rating system is to assign unexpected wins and losses to coaches so that coaches whose methods work better in the playoffs than in the regular season and so that coaches whose methods work worse in the playoffs than in the regular season are identified. Quest for the Ring already knows many of the basketball strategies and tactics that work better in the playoffs than in the regular season, and you do to if you read this site because we repeat most of them from time to time.

FINAL BOTTOM LINE RESULT OF ADVANCED REAL COACH RATINGS
When every playoff series that a coach has ever coached has been evaluated, we will be able to correctly assign that coach to one of the following categories:

FINAL CLASSIFICATION OF COACHES BASED ON ADVANCED REAL COACH RATINGS
A: 2,000 and more: An excellent, top of the line coach to have if you want to win the Quest for the Ring
B: 1,200 ti 2,000: A good coach to have if you want to win the Quest for the Ring
C: 500 to 1,200: A mediocre coach to have if you want to win the Quest for the Ring
D: 0 to 500: A poor coach to have if you want to win the Quest for the Ring
E: minus 500 to 0: A very poor coach to have if you want to win the Quest for the Ring
F: minus 500 and less: A terrible, nightmare coach to have if you want to win the Quest for the Ring

Once the system is fully operational, Quest for the Ring will guarantee that any coaches who are given an F will never, ever win the Quest. If an F coach ever wins the Quest, we will shut down this site and apologize for being grossly wrong, but trust me, that will never happen. Whether we will issue the absolute guarantee for E coaches is under review; suffice it to say for now that E coaches have only a trivial chance of ever winning the Quest.

In general, as you might already realize, the lower the grade of the coach, the better the players have to be to win the Quest for the Ring...

Coach is an A: Players need to be at least very good
Coach is a B: Players need to be at least very, very good
Coach is a C: Players need to be extremely good
Coach is a D: Players need to be historically good-one of the best teams of all time
Coach is an E: Players need to be about the best team of all time.
Coach is a F: There is no possible way any set of players can possibly win the Quest

SO WHEN IS THE GREAT NEW ADVANCED REAL COACH RATING GOING TO APPEAR?
Not for awhile, I am afraid. Because there are a few hundred playoff series involved with the 30 current NBA coaches (although by the way most of the series are concentrated with just ten coaches) and because doing the breakdown as explained above takes some serious time, we can not quickly produce the advanced Report in full. All great things take serious time to produce and Quest has no staff to speak of, so we’ll all have to be patient.

However, we will do the next best thing until we are finally ready to produce a complete advanced Report: we will give you Advanced Reports on specific coaches. These Reports will show you exactly how many playoff games the coach has distorted up or down. They will also include links to biographical information.

So which coach will be the first one whose playoff performance is put under the microscope and whose Advanced Real Coach Rating is reported? I’ll give you one guess....

What a surprise, almost everyone guessed correctly: it’s George Karl! So look for very soon this Report: “Advanced Real Coach Rating and Breakdown for George Karl.” The next one after that will be for Rick Carlisle. The next one after that will probably be Greg Popovich, who almost certainly will, unlike Karl and Carlisle, have an advanced rating that is higher than his basic rating.

Saturday, May 1, 2010

Help for Mavericks, Nuggets, and Other Fans is on the Way: Coaches who will Never, Ever win the Quest for the Ring to Soon be Exactly Identified

This is just a quick post to inform visitors of something very important that is in the works. For years now I have been doing basketball under certain assumptions, some of which are virtually unique to me and this site. One of the most important and one of the most unique assumptions is that upsets are very rare in basketball playoff series. Unlike in other sports where true playoff upsets are not rare, playoff series in basketball are generally won by the team that is supposed to win them, which would be the team with the best players and best coaching.

Moreover, in any basketball playoff series, if you know what you are doing, you can know in advance about how many games the losing team should win in that series (which will be zero, one, two, or three).

Having the best players is generally much more important than having the best coaching. However, whenever two teams are not very different in how good the players are, there is a possibility that the coaching will decide the series.

One aspect of the above claims, namely, that there are playoff games and series that are decided by the coaching rather than by the players, has been repeatedly stated here at Quest but not as yet proven exactly and beyond a shadow of a doubt. But after witnessing the San Antonio Spurs win over the heavily favored Dallas Mavericks and the Utah Jazz win over the heavily favored Denver Nuggets here in 2010, I am now motivated to get some hard, beyond the shadow of a doubt type of proof posted up at this site.

Because Dallas and Denver: the only reason your teams did not win is that the coaching of your teams was inferior to the coaching of the other teams. Teams should not lose a playoff series due to inferior coaching but both of your teams just did.

Coaches who have been getting away with murdering their teams due to turning playoff wins into losses will for the first time be carefully and precisely identified. I say precisely because I am going to give you very close estimates of how many playoff games each coach has blown due to inferior coaching and how many playoff games each coach has won due to superior coaching. Thanks to computers and the Internet, I can calculate and report to you (and myself) this valuable information.

No more will bad coaches be hiding out in the shadows because their playoff losses are always blamed on players. No more hanging out in the darkness for coaches who win in the regular season but can't win in the playoffs, or in other words no more hanging out in the darkness for coaches who should be coaching in the D League or else coaching non-playoff NBA teams.

I am over the next week or two or so going to be working feverishly on a new data bank of playoff series and games, which will go back about 20 years to about 1990. For every playoff series, the number of games that should have been won by each team will be identified using efficiency statistics, which roughly nineteen times out of twenty do in fact tell you who should and who is going to win any playoff series. For each series, the coach will be identified and clearly shown. Then it will be an easy thing to identify the number of playoff games that a coach was supposed to win but did not, and to also identify the number of playoff games that a coach was supposed to lose but did not.

Then of course we can add up the "bonehead coach losses" and the "expert coach wins" for each coach and then combine them together to get a net coach playoff game score or count. We will then know exactly who the culprits are with respect to the proven theory that coaching matters in the playoffs even more so than in the regular season, and that there are certain beliefs, strategies, and plays that seem to work alright in the regular season but that fail in the playoffs. This data bank will instantly become one of the most important ones here at Quest, which already has a growing number of important pro basketball data banks.

Then right on the home page we will prominently show the most important summary result of these calculations, and so we will clearly identify which coaches have to be replaced if a team hopes to ever win the Quest for the Ring. Because understand this: any coach who loses a substantial number of playoff games that he should have won (after wins that should have been losses are credited as offsets) will never ever win the Quest for the Ring. Because it is a serious thing in pro basketball to lose playoff games you are supposed to (or favored to, if you prefer) win. Because, again, true upsets are rare in pro basketball playoff series. And of course, true upset playoff wins would be mathematically offset by true upset losses for coaches over time.

For example, because I already know that George Karl has lost numerous playoff games that he should have won (because he had the better team on the court) I can absolutely point blank guarantee you that George Karl will never win the Quest regardless of what players he has, ultimately because he does not understand the heart and soul of basketball. If you gave George Karl any of Phil Jackson's ten Quest winning squads he could not win the Quest with any of those squads. He might possibly get into a Championship but he would lose no later than the Championship itself with any of Phil Jackson's teams that actually won. George Karl is incapable of winning the Quest for the Ring, period.

As for Mavericks Coach Rick Carlisle, it is strongly suspected at the moment that he will be identified as someone not as bad as Karl but who is nevertheless, like Karl, someone who will never win the Quest no matter what players he has. It will probably be soon shown that either Mavericks owner Marc Cuban replaces Carlisle or the Mavericks are not going to win the Quest no matter how much money Cuban spends to obtain good and great players. And then we'll see just how Atlanta Hawks Coach Mike Woodson stacks up. And we'll see how every current (and perhaps some previous ones) stack up as well.

Let me give you a preview: Rick Carlisle and George Karl will be identified as bonehead coaches who win regular season games (mostly because they usually are blessed with better players than many or most other coaches) but who fail in the playoffs due to some combination of false beliefs about basketball, inferior basketball strategies, and insufficient or too easy to defend basketball tactics (plays). Also, Carlisle, Karl, and the other scrub coaches may win quite a few regular season games, but they don't win as many of those as they could win, meaning that they don't get for their teams as much home court advantage as they should.

So stay tuned, because this little project to take place over the next week or two is going to take our overall project a major step higher and forward, as we seek to win our own Quest for the Ring, which is the Quest to understand exactly and completely all of the hows and the whys that explain who wins the NBA Quest for the Ring.

Google can to their heart's content steer people away from this site that did know and to sites that did not know that the Nuggets were most likely going to lose to the Jazz and that the Spurs could and might beat the Mavericks. And people can falsely think this site is too boring or is not accurate all they want, but believe me, I could not care less about any of that stuff. I am not going to be stopped by anything at all. I am going to eventually win the Quest and then I'll come back for the repeat and the threepeat and so forth after that

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All Quest Internet sites including QFTR are developed and produced according to both superseding criteria and site traffic. Beginning in 2011 QFTR is the only Site that Quest Internet has a guaranteed production level for, meaning that QFTR is NOT in competition with other Sites for scarce production time. (In other words, other projects are treated like garbage compared to the treatment that QFTR gets.)

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Unfortunately, a disturbingly large percentage of existing QFTR production time is used up by tasks that are best described as maintenance, infrastructure, research, and / or development in nature. These tasks are the kind of drudge work which on the one hand is absolutely necessary to produce one of the World's most important and highest quality basketball Sites. But on the other hand, there is so much of that work to do that the amount of time left over for actually producing content that visitors can consume is disturbingly limited. But if you link to QFTR and then traffic increases, most of the resulting production increase would go to Report production and very little of the additional work would go into those things you don't directly see when you visit QFTR.

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We are getting a lot of traffic to Reports that are older and/or or not the very most important ones on the Site. And we are getting a lot of "hit and run" traffic. Many of the Site visitors QFTR is getting from Google Search are the hit and run type. But like any other site producer, QFTR values returning visitors much more than "hit and run and never come back" visitors.

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Given the high level and unique nature of QFTR, it is possible that the traffic we are looking for doesn't exist to any significant extent, but we can't know that for sure unless and until more links to QFTR appear in places other than at Google Search. Specifically, right now only a very small number of basketball and sports sites link to QFTR, and we are looking for more of those. Since QFTR is literally a one of a kind site, bridging various content gaps that exist, it is no surprise that we have very few other sites linking to QFTR. We want to do everything possible to change that, and this message is partly what allows us to rest easy from knowing that everything possible was done.

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As with everything else traffic varies widely from one forum to another. But basketball forums seem to have more staying power than basketball sites in general do.

Beware of "layered" sites. As far as we know, none of the following are layered sites, which are sites that allow contributions from the general public only in hard to find, low traffic areas, while the main areas are off limits for public input and are only for a chosen few. All of the following have at least some notable traffic, and all of them allow relatively equal and open participation. The order is from most recommended to least recommended, based on about half a dozen factors.

FORUMS THAT DO NOT USE TRADITIONAL FORUM TEMPLATES AKA OPEN POSTING SITES
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FORUMS THAT DO USE TRADITIONAL FORUM TEMPLATES
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Pro Sports Daily NBA Forum
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NBA Dimensions NBA Forum
NBA Boards NBA Forum
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Sporting News NBA Forum
KFFL NBA Forum

Notes: There may be a small number of newer forums not on this list (QFTR does not have the time for a full investigation here in 2012). Also, there were other forums when this list was first composed, but they were all very low traffic and low activity ones compared to the ones above. They may have much higher traffic now.

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In general these are very high traffic but are largely worthless for getting getting quality traffic to sites like QFTR. The Fox NBA board is very low traffic, and the MSNBC NBA board doesn't exist anymore. The CBS Sports NBA Message Board is a layered site; you can NOT post topics nor expect to be considered seriously there until you have spent a few years posting there. We do not recommend CBS Sports. So the only real, fully open NBA forum hosted by a big corporation is the ESPN message board. Be forewarned though that the ESPN board is dominated by very young fans who make very short comments. On the other hand, it is a high traffic site, so we won't stop you from posting a Quest link at ESPN if you want to. (Welcome to the Internet, where the higher the traffic the more shallow the Site, and vice versa).

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From day one we knew that QFTR would never be a hang out place, a place where people come to comment on basketball news and blogs and what not. For one thing, we knew it could never possibly be even a moderate traffic Site (let alone a high traffic Site) regardless of the quality or quantity of basketball content loaded on to it. (It took years and about 15 books worth of content just to go from zero traffic to low traffic). Although you wouldn't expect it to be all that popular, it seems that a serious and unique basketball Site has even a lower potential audience than one would expect.

For another thing, QFTR is too serious for the quick little comments that are a dime a dozen at basketball Sites and blogs around the Internet. And most people who comment like to make only short little comments.

And of course it is well known that only a tiny percentage of blogs get more than a tiny number of comments and that essentially all of the blogs that do get comments are part of blog networks and/or they are run by celebrities.

And there are other reasons but those are the main ones.

The truth though is that your QFTR producer never had the resources to moderate and / or to participate in discussions at QFTR. Before there was a QFTR we participated in forums, and for about 18 months after there was a QFTR we still posted at a couple of forums, but we had to discontinue due to lack of time and because posting at forums was useless for getting traffic to QFTR that would return for future visits. As mentioned above in "Your Ball, Take Your Best Shot, Option 3," QFTR has only roughly 1/10 of the time it would like for producing content and for getting the background work done. So we are not even close to having the time to deal with comments that would go directly onto QFTR. So actually, we are glad that there has been very little interest.

Having said that, until January 2012 there was an option for commenting on Reports etc.. There was a page called "QFTR Discussions" where all comments on all Reports would appear in one place. These were going to be more serious and lengthy comments than the ones you see around the Internet.

Along with the discussion page there was to be an "open blog" called "My Quest for the Ring". Anyone who demonstrated the ability to make important, interesting, and/or useful contributions toward explaining how playoff games are won and lost would be given the keys and would be allowed to post whatever whenever. These would be full posts and not just comments. This would be a collaboration blog.

Both Discussions and My Quest for the Ring were nice, creative ideas, but there were no takers because of some combination of the following:

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MOST RECENT LEAGUE WIDE REAL PLAYER RATINGS

Note: This is generally a once a year, end of season Report. For many teams and players, more recent ratings are often available.

NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON


POSITION AND TEAM CODES
In the Real Player and related ratings shown for the League, two codes follow each players' name (and before his rating). The first code tells you the players' team and the second one tells you his position.

TEAM CODES
ATLA Atlanta Hawks
BOST Boston Celtics
CHAR Charlotte Bobcats
CHIC Chicago Bulls
CLEV Cleveland Cavaliers
DALL Dallas Mavericks
DENV Denver Nuggets
DETR Detroit Pistons
GOLS Golden State Warriors
HOUS Houston Rockets
INDI Indiana Pacers
LACL Los Angeles Clippers
LALK Los Angeles Lakers
MEMP Memphis Grizzlies
MIAM Miami Heat
MILW Milwaukee Bucks
MINN Minnesota Timberwolves
NJRS New Jersey Nets
NORL New Orleans Hornets
NWYR New York Knicks
OKLA Oklahoma Thunder
ORLA Orlando Magic
PHIL Philadelphia 76'ers
PHNX Phoenix Suns
PORT Portland Trailblazers
SACR Sacramento Kings
SANA San Antonio Spurs
TORO Toronto Raptors
UTAH Utah Jazz
WASH Washington Wizards

POSITION CODES
PG Point Guard
SG Shooting Guard
SF Small Forward
PF Power Forward
C Center

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Preferably should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Generally should not start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less

NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON

--Shows the real quality of players
--Includes all tracked actions and also includes untracked or hidden defending
--The average Real Player Rating for all players who play 300 minutes or more is about .700.
--All players who have played at least 300 minutes are included here and in all other ratings to follow in coming days

MAJOR HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
1 LeBron James CLEV SF 1.382
2 Tim Duncan SANA PF 1.254
3 Chris Paul NORL PG 1.202
4 Dwight Howard ORLA C 1.121
5 Andrew Bogut MILW C 1.112

HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
6 Steve Nash PHNX PG 1.095
7 Jason Kidd DALL PG 1.092
8 Rajon Rondo BOST PG 1.084
9 Deron Williams UTAH PG 1.076
10 Dwyane Wade MIAM SG 1.075
11 Marcus Camby LACL C 1.071
12 Pau Gasol LALK PF 1.065
13 Greg Oden PORT C 1.060
14 Kevin Durant OKLA SF 1.051
15 Dirk Nowitzki DALL PF 1.034
16 Josh Smith ATLA SF 1.033
17 Kevin Garnett BOST PF 1.033
18 Manu Ginobili SANA SG 1.023
19 Kobe Bryant LALK SG 1.005

SUPERSTARS
20 Carlos Boozer UTAH PF 0.994
21 Lamar Odom LALK PF 0.982
22 Andrei Kirilenko UTAH SF 0.976
23 Chris Bosh TORO PF 0.972
24 David Lee NWYR C 0.971
25 Al Horford ATLA C 0.970
26 Marcus Camby PORT C 0.967
27 Jameer Nelson ORLA PG 0.959
28 Joakim Noah CHIC C 0.955
29 John Salmons MILW SF 0.937
30 Andrew Bynum LALK C 0.936
31 Troy Murphy INDI PF 0.934
32 Kevin Love MINN PF 0.934
33 Anderson Varejao CLEV C 0.933
34 Brendan Haywood DALL C 0.929
35 Vince Carter ORLA SG 0.928
36 Gerald Wallace CHAR SF 0.918
37 Sergio Rodriguez SACR PG 0.908
38 Tyrus Thomas CHIC PF 0.904
39 Derrick Rose CHIC PG 0.903

STARS
40 Baron Davis LACL PG 0.899
41 Russell Westbrook OKLA PG 0.897
42 Zach Randolph MEMP PF 0.885
43 Danny Granger INDI SF 0.885
44 Marc Gasol MEMP C 0.885
45 Joe Johnson ATLA SG 0.883
46 Chauncey Billups DENV PG 0.883
47 Roy Hibbert INDI C 0.880
48 Ben Wallace DETR C 0.877
49 Andre Miller PORT PG 0.874
50 Carmelo Anthony DENV SF 0.874
51 Brandon Jennings MILW PG 0.870
52 Tyrus Thomas CHAR PF 0.870
53 A.J. Price INDI PG 0.868
54 Paul Millsap UTAH PF 0.866
55 Craig Smith LACL PF 0.865
56 Samuel Dalembert PHIL C 0.864
57 Andre Iguodala PHIL SG 0.858
58 Raymond Felton CHAR PG 0.857
59 Delonte West CLEV SG 0.856
60 Al Jefferson MINN C 0.856
61 Eric Maynor OKLA PG 0.856
62 Serge Ibaka OKLA PF 0.855
63 Nene Hilario DENV C 0.852
64 Chris Andersen DENV PF 0.849
65 Shaquille O'Neal CLEV C 0.842
66 Brandon Roy PORT SG 0.842
67 Ryan Anderson ORLA PF 0.840
68 Antonio McDyess SANA PF 0.839
69 Tony Parker SANA PG 0.837
70 Paul Pierce BOST SF 0.836
71 Mo Williams CLEV PG 0.835
72 Kyle Lowry HOUS PG 0.835
73 Ersan Ilyasova MILW SF 0.828
74 Amare Stoudemire PHNX PF 0.828
75 Luke Ridnour MILW PG 0.827
76 Erick Dampier DALL C 0.826
77 Tyreke Evans SACR PG 0.825
78 Andris Biedrins GOLS C 0.825
79 Kyle Korver UTAH SG 0.824
80 Anthony Randolph GOLS PF 0.820

VERY GOOD PLAYERS / SOLID STARTERS
81 Eric Maynor UTAH PG 0.819
82 Carlos Arroyo MIAM PG 0.819
83 Antawn Jamison CLEV PF 0.819
84 Nazr Mohammed CHAR C 0.818
85 Luol Deng CHIC SF 0.817
86 Dorell Wright MIAM SG 0.817
87 LaMarcus Aldridge PORT PF 0.817
88 Carl Landry HOUS PF 0.816
89 Luis Scola HOUS PF 0.816
90 Nick Collison OKLA PF 0.812
91 Carlos Delfino MILW SG 0.809
92 Kendrick Perkins BOST C 0.807
93 Jermaine O'Neal MIAM C 0.805
94 Nate Robinson NWYR PG 0.804
95 Goran Dragic PHNX PG 0.803
96 Mike Bibby ATLA PG 0.803
97 Stephen Curry GOLS PG 0.803
98 Mehmet Okur UTAH C 0.800
99 Jose Calderon TORO PG 0.797
100 Jason Terry DALL SG 0.791
101 Ronnie Price UTAH PG 0.784
102 DeJuan Blair SANA PF 0.784
103 Chris Kaman LACL C 0.783
104 Shaun Livingston WASH PG 0.783
105 Joel Przybilla PORT C 0.782
106 David West NORL PF 0.781
107 John Salmons CHIC SF 0.776
108 Matt Barnes ORLA SF 0.775
109 Darren Collison NORL PG 0.775
110 Ronny Turiaf GOLS C 0.774
111 Udonis Haslem MIAM PF 0.774
112 Shawn Marion DALL SF 0.772
113 Jason Williams ORLA PG 0.771
114 Keyon Dooling NJRS PG 0.771
115 Andray Blatche WASH C 0.770
116 James Harden OKLA SG 0.770
117 Brook Lopez NJRS C 0.770
118 Ray Allen BOST SG 0.770
119 Amir Johnson TORO SF 0.769
120 Ty Lawson DENV PG 0.768
121 Beno Udrih SACR PG 0.768
122 Chuck Hayes HOUS PF 0.765
123 Matt Bonner SANA PF 0.763
124 Reggie Evans TORO PF 0.763
125 Gilbert Arenas WASH PG 0.760

MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS / GOOD ENOUGH TO START
126 Zydrunas Ilgauskas CLEV C 0.758
127 Rasheed Wallace BOST PF 0.757
128 Lou Williams PHIL SG 0.756
129 Stephen Jackson CHAR SF 0.754
130 Dan Gadzuric MILW C 0.754
131 Jamario Moon CLEV SF 0.754
132 Ron Artest LALK SF 0.752
133 Rodney Stuckey DETR PG 0.749
134 Shelden Williams BOST PF 0.748
135 Oleksiy Pecherov MINN C 0.748
136 Aaron Brooks HOUS PG 0.747
137 Boris Diaw CHAR PF 0.746
138 C.J. Watson GOLS PG 0.746
139 Brendan Haywood WASH C 0.744
140 Emeka Okafor NORL C 0.742
141 Taj Gibson CHIC PF 0.741
142 J.R. Smith DENV SG 0.738
143 Mike Miller WASH SF 0.732
144 Channing Frye PHNX C 0.731
145 Louis Amundson PHNX PF 0.731
146 Elton Brand PHIL PF 0.726
147 D.J. Mbenga LALK C 0.725
148 Tayshaun Prince DETR SF 0.724
149 Francisco Garcia SACR SG 0.724
150 Tyler Hansbrough INDI PF 0.724
151 Trevor Ariza HOUS SG 0.723
152 Allen Iverson PHIL SG 0.722
153 Rashard Lewis ORLA PF 0.721
154 Richard Jefferson SANA SF 0.721
155 Luc Richard Mbah a Moute MILW SF 0.721
156 Jamal Crawford ATLA SG 0.721
157 Brad Miller CHIC C 0.720
158 Josh Boone NJRS C 0.718
159 Jason Richardson PHNX SG 0.718
160 Sebastian Telfair LACL PG 0.717
161 Marvin Williams ATLA PF 0.716
162 David Andersen HOUS C 0.715
163 Caron Butler DALL SF 0.715
164 Michael Beasley MIAM PF 0.714
165 George Hill SANA PG 0.713
166 Ronnie Brewer UTAH SG 0.712
167 D.J. Augustin CHAR PG 0.712
168 Monta Ellis GOLS PG 0.711
169 Sean May SACR PF 0.710
170 Anthony Tolliver GOLS PF 0.709
171 Kenyon Martin DENV PF 0.709
172 Tyson Chandler CHAR C 0.709
173 Rodrigue Beaubois DALL PG 0.707
174 Stephen Jackson GOLS SF 0.704
175 Shane Battier HOUS SF 0.703
176 Stephen Graham CHAR SF 0.702
177 Mike Conley MEMP PG 0.702
178 Earl Watson INDI PG 0.701
179 T.J. Ford INDI PG 0.700

GOOD ROLE PLAYERS / OFTEN GOOD 6TH MAN PLAYERS
180 Ramon Sessions MINN PG 0.699
181 Corey Maggette GOLS SF 0.699
182 Marcin Gortat ORLA PF 0.698
183 Terrence Williams NJRS SG 0.698
184 Jarrett Jack TORO PG 0.698
185 James Singleton WASH SF 0.696
186 JaVale McGee WASH C 0.694
187 Jose Juan Barea DALL PG 0.694
188 Marcus Thornton NORL SG 0.693
189 Daequan Cook MIAM SG 0.691
190 Jordan Farmar LALK PG 0.689
191 Kirk Hinrich CHIC PG 0.689
192 Carl Landry SACR PF 0.689
193 Shannon Brown LALK PG 0.687
194 Anthony Carter DENV PG 0.686
195 Jason Thompson SACR PF 0.686
196 Mike Dunleavy INDI SF 0.686
197 Robin Lopez PHNX C 0.684
198 Spencer Hawes SACR C 0.680
199 Rudy Fernandez PORT SG 0.678
200 Drew Gooden LACL PF 0.678
201 Steve Blake LACL PG 0.677
202 Bobby Simmons NJRS SF 0.676
203 Larry Hughes NWYR SG 0.675
204 Jerry Stackhouse MILW SF 0.675
205 Quentin Richardson MIAM SG 0.675
206 Rudy Gay MEMP SF 0.675
207 Darko Milicic MINN C 0.674
208 Drew Gooden DALL PF 0.674
209 Reggie Williams GOLS SF 0.673
210 Ronald Murray CHAR SG 0.671
211 Grant Hill PHNX SF 0.669
212 Nate Robinson BOST PG 0.668
213 Travis Outlaw LACL SF 0.668
214 Steve Blake PORT PG 0.667
215 Devin Harris NJRS PG 0.665
216 Antawn Jamison WASH PF 0.665
217 Danilo Gallinari NWYR SF 0.664
218 Wilson Chandler NWYR SF 0.664
219 Gerald Henderson CHAR SG 0.664
220 Tony Allen BOST SG 0.663
221 Kyrylo Fesenko UTAH C 0.662
222 Anthony Morrow GOLS SG 0.661
223 Jordan Hill HOUS PF 0.661
224 Jared Dudley PHNX SF 0.660
225 Daniel Gibson CLEV PG 0.660
226 Jeff Green OKLA PF 0.659
227 Josh McRoberts INDI PF 0.659
228 Anthony Johnson ORLA PG 0.658
229 J.J. Redick ORLA SG 0.658
230 Al Harrington NWYR PF 0.655
231 Luther Head INDI PG 0.654
232 Nicolas Batum PORT SF 0.653
233 Theo Ratliff CHAR C 0.650
234 Mario Chalmers MIAM PG 0.648
235 Brandon Bass ORLA PF 0.648
236 Kris Humphries NJRS PF 0.646
237 Chris Duhon NWYR PG 0.643
238 Nenad Krstic OKLA C 0.642
239 Kris Humphries DALL PF 0.642

SATISFACTORY ROLE PLAYERS / USUALLY DO NOT START
240 Rasho Nesterovic TORO C 0.637
241 Hedo Turkoglu TORO SF 0.635
242 Johan Petro DENV C 0.635
243 Randy Foye WASH PG 0.634
244 Jrue Holiday PHIL PG 0.633
245 Mickael Pietrus ORLA SG 0.631
246 Jared Jeffries NWYR PF 0.627
247 Leandro Barbosa PHNX SG 0.626
248 Joel Anthony MIAM C 0.624
249 O.J. Mayo MEMP SG 0.622
250 Chase Budinger HOUS SF 0.621
251 Roger Mason SANA SG 0.619
252 Caron Butler WASH SF 0.617
253 Peja Stojakovic NORL SF 0.615
254 Marreese Speights PHIL PF 0.613
255 Jamaal Tinsley MEMP PG 0.613
256 Bobby Brown NORL PG 0.611
257 Jonas Jerebko DETR SF 0.610
258 Omri Casspi SACR SF 0.609
259 Kurt Thomas MILW PF 0.608
260 Thaddeus Young PHIL SF 0.607
261 Brandon Rush INDI SG 0.606
262 Hasheem Thabeet MEMP C 0.605
263 Damien Wilkins MINN SG 0.601
264 Rodney Carney PHIL SF 0.601
265 Earl Boykins WASH PG 0.599
266 J.J. Hickson CLEV PF 0.599
267 Willie Green PHIL SG 0.598
268 Anthony Parker CLEV SG 0.596
269 Jamaal Magloire MIAM C 0.594
270 Wesley Matthews UTAH SG 0.592
271 Devean George GOLS SG 0.592
272 Richard Hamilton DETR SG 0.592
273 Kevin Martin SACR SG 0.591
274 Andrea Bargnani TORO C 0.591
275 Ryan Gomes MINN SF 0.589
276 Thabo Sefolosha OKLA SF 0.589
277 Rafer Alston NJRS PG 0.589
278 Tracy McGrady NWYR SG 0.588
279 Marco Belinelli TORO SG 0.587
280 Michael Finley BOST SF 0.585
281 Marcus Williams MEMP PG 0.583
282 Martell Webster PORT SG 0.583
283 Charlie Villanueva DETR PF 0.582

MARGINAL ROLE PLAYERS / RARELY START
284 Derek Fisher LALK PG 0.578
285 Jannero Pargo CHIC PG 0.577
286 Toney Douglas NWYR PG 0.577
287 Chris Hunter GOLS PF 0.576
288 Derrick Brown CHAR SF 0.575
289 Yi Jianlian NJRS PF 0.575
290 Nathan Jawai MINN PF 0.575
291 Ime Udoka SACR SG 0.574
292 Sergio Rodriguez NWYR PG 0.574
293 Arron Afflalo DENV SG 0.573
294 Kevin Martin HOUS SG 0.572
295 Hakim Warrick MILW PF 0.571
296 Al Thornton WASH SF 0.569
297 Will Bynum DETR PG 0.568
298 Jonny Flynn MINN PG 0.568
299 James Posey NORL SF 0.564
300 Mikki Moore GOLS C 0.561
301 Darius Songaila NORL PF 0.561
302 Jerryd Bayless PORT PG 0.556
303 Jon Brockman SACR PF 0.554
304 Sasha Vujacic LALK SG 0.554
305 Dante Cunningham PORT SF 0.551
306 Michael Redd MILW SG 0.551
307 Eric Gordon LACL SG 0.550
308 C.J. Miles UTAH SF 0.549
309 Al Thornton LACL SF 0.547
310 Julian Wright NORL SF 0.545
311 Jeff Teague ATLA PG 0.544
312 Marquis Daniels BOST SG 0.543
313 Dahntay Jones INDI SG 0.542
314 Chris Douglas-Roberts NJRS SG 0.541
315 Zaza Pachulia ATLA C 0.538
316 Etan Thomas OKLA C 0.538
317 Sonny Weems TORO SG 0.537
318 Devin Brown NORL SG 0.533
319 Jason Maxiell DETR PF 0.532
320 Bill Walker NWYR SG 0.532
321 Courtney Lee NJRS SG 0.528
322 James Jones MIAM SF 0.525
323 Donte Greene SACR SF 0.524
324 Kenny Thomas SACR PF 0.523
325 Wayne Ellington MINN SG 0.521
326 Juwan Howard PORT PF 0.520

POOR PLAYERS / SHOULD NEVER START
327 Charlie Bell MILW SG 0.518
328 Corey Brewer MINN SF 0.518
329 Hakim Warrick CHIC PF 0.514
330 DeAndre Jordan LACL C 0.512
331 Rasual Butler LACL SG 0.509
332 Glen Davis BOST PF 0.508
333 Sam Young MEMP SF 0.508
334 Austin Daye DETR SF 0.507
335 Ronald Murray CHIC SG 0.504
336 Vladimir Radmanovic GOLS SF 0.494
337 Solomon Jones INDI PF 0.493
338 Ben Gordon DETR SG 0.491
339 James Johnson CHIC PF 0.487
340 Rafer Alston MIAM PG 0.482
341 Eduardo Najera DALL PF 0.482
342 Chucky Atkins DETR PG 0.477
343 Earl Clark PHNX SF 0.474
344 Joey Graham DENV SF 0.473
345 Fabricio Oberto WASH C 0.468
346 Jason Smith PHIL PF 0.466
347 Andres Nocioni SACR SF 0.464
348 Jared Jeffries HOUS PF 0.462
349 Nick Young WASH SG 0.462
350 Maurice Evans ATLA SF 0.462
351 Keith Bogans SANA SG 0.462
352 Josh Howard DALL SF 0.460

VERY POOR PLAYERS
353 Eddie House NWYR SG 0.454
354 Joe Smith ATLA PF 0.453
355 Kwame Brown DETR C 0.452
356 Antoine Wright TORO SF 0.451
357 Darrell Arthur MEMP PF 0.443
358 Jarvis Hayes NJRS SF 0.438
359 Ricky Davis LACL SF 0.437
360 Mardy Collins LACL PG 0.436
361 Malik Hairston SANA SG 0.433
362 Jeff Pendergraph PORT PF 0.432
363 Jermaine Taylor HOUS SG 0.428
364 Chris Wilcox DETR C 0.417
365 DeMar DeRozan TORO SG 0.414
366 Jodie Meeks MILW SG 0.413
367 Quinton Ross DALL SF 0.406

EXTREMELY POOR PLAYERS
368 Morris Peterson NORL SG 0.394
369 Josh Powell LALK PF 0.386
370 Jason Kapono PHIL SG 0.383
371 Jawad Williams CLEV SF 0.369
372 DeMarre Carroll MEMP SF 0.357
373 Ryan Hollins MINN C 0.351
374 Steve Novak LACL SF 0.345
375 Trenton Hassell NJRS SF 0.342
376 Brian Scalabrine BOST C 0.329
377 Michael Finley SANA SF 0.321
378 Sasha Pavlovic MINN SG 0.314
379 DeShawn Stevenson WASH SG 0.287
380 Malik Allen DENV PF 0.282
381 DaJuan Summers DETR SF 0.266

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Usually do not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Rarely start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less

AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. These are the average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who are superstars. Most (but definitely not all) superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.

Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .640
Small Forward .640
Power Forward .720
Center .750
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700

PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season.

REGULAR SEASON STARTING PLAYERS
All starters on all teams should have ratings of .575 and higher. If a team has no player at a postion with at least a .575 rating, then it is extremely deficient at that position due to injuries or due to management incompetence.

THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
The above are a few hightlights from the User Guide for Real Player Ratings. For complete details regarding how the Real Player Ratings are designed, how and why they work, and how exactly you can use them, see the User Guide. The User Guide for Real Player Ratings is a necessary reference for anyone who wants to truly understand the value of, the validity of, and the ways you can use the Real Player Rating performance measures.

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